Here’s “Repack Rider’s” stunningly uninformed analysis of gun-related crimes in the United States, from the comment section on the previous post:
“Our Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms costs us more deaths than all the terrorists acts in our history…”
The problem with this analysis is that it holds the Bill of Rights responsible for gun crime. News flash: I’m willing to bet you a mortgage payment that gun crimes are largely committed by folks that DON’T ADHERE TO THE LAW OF THE LAND! And as JB conveyed, DC is the PERFECT example. Outlaw guns, and only the outlaws will use them.
The funniest, most fallacious part of his/her argument? “Rider” takes JB to task for pledging allegiance to a government that is somehow using “enemies as a means to steal our freedom and retain power.” In the next breath, “Rider” tries to have it both ways by blaming gun crime on the 2nd Ammendment. I’m confused, Rider! Is the government stripping us of our rights or maintaining them? If you want to write your own version of the Constitution, be my guest. But you can’t complain about the 2nd Amendment and at the same time whine about the government “stealing your freedom.”
And pulling Orwell into this? Forgive me, but how passe!!!!
No, that would be the fear-mongering talking point frm the GOP. “Vote for us or the boogieman will get you.”
I don’t get talking points from anyone. I also live in DC and don’t want to be killed by idiots that have, as their sole motivation, the death of me, my family, and everything and everyone I care about.
People who have not read “1984″ do not understand, but the entire GOP strategy is to create a hated enemy and say that they are our only hope.
Orwell. Nice try. I have read 1984 four or five times. If memory serves, it’s a work of fiction, not a user’s manual. And, it is a work of amazing satire against the budding totaliarism that was popping up in Europe at the time. The “boogieman”, as you put it, was the State, not an outside force hell-bent on killing off non-cooperative civilization.
The US didn’t create the “hated enemy”. Good people in the US realize they exist and want to kill them.
Patriotic Americans like me, a US Army veteran, do not fear external enemies as much as we fear a government using such enemies as a means to steal our freedom and retain power.
Then you must have been a really shitty soldier. I’m glad you are a veteran, because if the Army and other forces had morons like you still serving, we’d be in a lot more trouble than we are in now.
Most Americans do not want to be killed by gun-toting criminals, but a lot are every year. Our Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms costs us more deaths than all the terrorists acts in our history, but I don’t see you advocating its repeal in the name of safety.
The incoherency of that arguement is almost physically staggering. Guns are outlawed in DC, and yet it is persistently among the highest gun-crime area in the WORLD. The answer to gun crime isn’t outlawing guns, it’s allowing reasonable and responsible home-owners to have them. Like it or not, the Bill of Rights is written to GIVE rights to citizens and restrict the power of the state, not to give the government the ability to take them away.
But you would give up your civil rights, such as the Fourth Amendment right to be secure in your personal effects, to be protected from religious fanatics. You would vote for a bunch of criminals merely because they say they can protect you from the boogieman, the same one they FAILED to protect you from on 9/11.
Yes, I would give up some rights for just that reason. The fourth amendment provides personal effects and property to be secure. The fifth amendment provides the right to face my accuser, and to shield myself from malicious prosecution. The second amendment provides me the right to protect myself with a firearm.
My civil rights have never been violated. If the government gets credible evidence that I am a terrorist, I want them listening to my calls, I want them seeing what books I check out from the library…. but I’m NOT a terrorist, so I don’t care if they do it or not. I DO want them watching numb-nuts who spout about liberty when their real desire is to kill me. (CAIR, call your office)
But if you decide to enter my home without my permission, there is a pretty good chance your gonna take a .38 round in the forehead. If I am on a plane and a terrorist tries to take control of it, there is a very good chance I and my fellow passengers are gonna beat the snot out of him/her- or die trying.
I have the amazing ability to not live in this strange “grey area” so many people are trying to construct now. I know good and bad, I know right and wrong. When someone wants to kill me, I know that my proper response is to kill them first. There is no American Jihad. America doesn’t- never has- gone out with the primary intention to kill another civilization. It’s just never happened.
To make such ridiculous moral-equivilances is preposterous.
By the way, Charlie, I checked out your website. We actually have a lot in common… the biggest difference is you are a nut-job, and I’m not.
for standing up against the typical shrewishness that usually exists on “The View”. This daily gab-fest, which is really nothing more than a televised feminist bullshit-session, is normally so silly and worthless that it doesn’t deserve mention.
But recently- not sure when, don’t care- Baba Wawa decided to bring up the abortion question. And with Lisa Loeb as a guest host (Charro must have been unavailable) Elisabeth took on the entire panel… and in my “view” she won.
